Understanding Composing..

Dear all,

I understand that this paper is talk about writing process.

When I write something, the first thing that I do is I think about the topic, what I know about the topic, what I want to write and what I can write. While I am writing, I usually reread and think about the topic or a key word when I stuck. These can make my idea flow again.

I agree with this sentence, "Thus, the unit that is reread is not necessarily a syntactic one, but rather a semantic one as defined by the writer." (p.100)

And after I finish read this paper I found one sentence is the way I do.

"These writers focus on what they think others want them to write rather than looking to see what it is they want to write. As a result, they often ignore their felt sense and they do not establish a living connection between themselves and their topic." (p.104)

Sometime when I stuck even though I try to think about the topic and key word, I still stuck. I usually think what the readers want to read, they really want to read what I write now. So I can't go on.

“… writers need to know certain grammatical rules and evaluative criteria, but they also need to know how to call up a sense of their reader’s needs and expectation.” (p.105) I agree with this sentence, too.

Thank you,

K[a]n`i

Understanding Composing

Dear All,

I just read this article for the first time and I never comment the article before. After I read this article, I agree with the clause " The descriptions of the writing that follow are based on my own observations of the composing processes of many types of writers"(P.100) because whenever I would like to explain about something, I always consider about something that happen or observe from these situations. Moreover, it still has including the experience of the writer as well.

I agree with "the topic evokes a felt sense in them"(P. 101) because sometimes the topic means to forth images, words, ideas, and vague fuzzy feelings which these things made someone paying attention and thinking about some situations that might be occur and can pass on the experience throughout some words or letters.

Furthermore, I can learn various things from the process of writing. So, I think the most important thing for writing is the topic. Thus, when I have to write something I should understand about the topic clearly in order to lead the good achievement.

Finally, according to the process of writing I have to improve myself a lot of things such as interpreting, arrangement the data or even if making a summary in order to improve myself better than now.

Thank you
Sudarath

The "Composing"

4 me "The rules is not the rules"
"The plans is not the plans"
"The composing is not the composing, too" 555

I wonder how, I wonder why, Nid loves the writer?
Normally, this article's writer wrote for students who want to begin an ameture writer.
However, I agree that she (Sondra) understood feeling of most beginner.

I learned that when I have a topic to write. First of all, I must seperate it to
four of images, words, ideas and vague fuzzy feelings. Then, I pay attention and make
decision to write. After that, if I pause and feel fool, I will go back to the topic and repeat
four of keywords and think that what I want to do and keep writing again.

Finally, it seems to be a hardest word for "felt sense." Because of no one does it
better than professional writers that they have their "innervoice" or "inspiration."
Nevertheless, I can learn how to work with creativity only. That is the way to a beginner
writer for me. Or Composing can begin with basic process (the topic)?

Understanding Composing

This article read easy more the last week.
This article explain understanding in wrting and easy. For example sentense, "In recent years, many researchers including myself have questioned the traditional notion that writing is a linear process with a strict plan-write-revise sequence." (P.100) I agree.

The good writing should recursive. When I write work, I must look the topic and data flow out.
Topic evoke a felt sense.

"Is "felt sense" another term for what professional writers call their "inner voice" or their feeling of "inspiration"?"(P.102) I answer yes. I believe.

I think the felt sense or inspiration is thing in mind and relate about idea.

I have story to tell all I'm not sure that relate this article. I saw TV that reported who are alzheimer don't remember family but they feel like someone and don't like someone in family because they mind feel. This is mind system and brain system (inner mind). Doctor don't know why who are alzheimer can know and remember.

Thanks

Understanding Composing

Dear all,

After I read this article, I more understand about the process of writing and known myself when I need to write something.

Moreover, I agree with the writer everything that she informed us. She clearly explained and gave examples about process of writing. She explained about the term “felt sense” and how writing leads to discovery.

I agree with the sentence that “In the process of writing, we begin with what is inchoate and end with something that is tangible.”

Sometimes in my writing, I frequently need to go back to the topic, to reread and wait until I got more new idea, concepts or images

I really agree with the sentence that “writers need to know certain grammatical rules and evaluative criteria, but thay also need to know how to call up a sense of their reader’s needs and expectation.” as well.

Regards,
Jib

Understanding Composing

Hi all,

First, I would like to say that I really really and really agree with the writer; everything s/he wrote in this article. S/he understands writers. S/he understands a writing beginner as me. I know s/he was a writing beginner before and now s/he is a good writer for me. I love her! (better assume that the writter is female)

When I read this article, it made me think about a nonstop writing. If you can remeber that I disagree with nonstop writing -- I cannot do a nonstop writing; I could not explain why I can't do it at that time, but now I will tell you why not by using some Perl's words. She speaks for me.

While I am writing some topics, sometimes I have to stop or pause to go back, repeat key words, look at my felt experience and wait for an image, a word, or a phrase to emerge that captures the sense I embody. It means I agree with a recursive process of writing. It works for me.

I like that the writer told us about the meaning of the word 'right' and 'wrong' in a writing process. She said that these 2 words are not neccessarily meant to refer to grammatical structures or to correctness, but they mean the answers of these questions "Are these words right for me?" "Do they cature what I'm trying to say?" "If not, what's missing?". However the writer still remind us to not forget about certain grammtical rules and evaluative criteria which are needed by writers.

I can say that there is nothing in this article I disagree even "Writting leads to discovery"

I don't know what more to say. What I want to say is in the article. Perl speaks for me ;)

Sometimes I feel that I can think, I know, I have ideas of something, but I don't know how to speak out by words, even write words down. When I read this article, I always say "yes, that's what I think" in my mind. But if I want to say "Yes, that's what I said" instead, what will I have to do???? Could anybody suggest me? Shall I read more?

Thank you all
Have good weekend
:)

A cognitivist analysis of writer's block

When I read this article , written by Mike Rose , I had a feeling that the article was not suitable to me . The article made me know that I do not have only the problem in writing but also in reading . It full of difficult vocabularies and academy writing style which is hard to understand . That is my first comment .
Second , from the author’s idea , writing is problem-solving , which I never view like this before . But I think this idea is not always true . Sometimes may be true but sometimes are not . Writing is not problem-solving but thinking is . We cannot write because we cannot find a solution to write . No solution is cause where as writing’s block is symptom . If writing is problem-solving , doing everything is problem-solving also .
Next , the main idea , that I can only get form the article after finished reading , is that rigid rules , inflexible plans , and the stifling of language are the writer’s block . The same level of understanding as I comprehend as I read only the title article . And it is not the new idea or new light for me . As a Buddhist , I known about the middle way , that is do not take seriously or take it easy but do between them . The middle way is appropriate for doing things . It is a way of life . I think it is the same idea that the author try to teach me ( or maybe I try to learn from him ) . This concept was teach by the Buddha , more than 2,500 years ago .
Finally , I feel like I have little gain from this article ( may be cause by my limit capability that cannot extract knowledge from the article ) . It looks like I listen to the author’ comment about his students’ writing .

Dear all.

Dear all.

I' m sorry because I write late. I don't have the paper of teacher.I was sick.

I think when I receive the paper,I will write again.

"The Cognitivist"

I apologize for writing this article late.
I was sick and I slept all day long yesterday.
I tried to read and understand.
Have I told you lately that "the rule is not the rule"
I believe that "the plan is not the plan" too!
Rules can be learned directly. Sometimes it guides
us to organize ideas in functions.
However, solving problemcan be done without rules.
Plans make us to advance understanding when we
want to solve problems. If we understand clearly in
developing of writing as a problem-solving process,
we will focus the right way how we should do.

A Cognitivist Analysis of Writer's Block..

Hi all,

I think, this paper is long and has many difficult words.

T_T

I'm one of writer's block. When I must write I am very anxiety and insecurity about anything that I write can communicate with other people. I don't know the other understand what I write (usually what I say, too). I know I have problem about a communication. I fear to say and also write what I think. This is my big problem when I write because I usually worry about the context more than the grammar. Sometime, many things are confuse in my mind, I don't know how to explain them to the other. If I must talk, I must have a long long time to think about the answer or what I want to say. So I avoid to talk, I prefer to listen.

Thank you,
K[a]n`i

A cognitivist Ananlysis of Writer's Block.

This paper is my task. I can not understand it within 2 or 3 days, but i will try.

Rules and Plans.
I interested this topic.
I think heruristic rules that are appropriate process with me to learning english.
There are not complete rules. It depend on each person, but I can learn it by myself.
Plan is a hierarchical process that can help me controling many operations for learning.

Best Regards
Banna Wanishayanun

A Cognitive Analysis of Writer’s Block.

Dear all

Two types of writing, Blocking and non-blocking can be developed my writing. A Cognitive Analysis is a process of writing that it means relating to connect with thinking involved in knowing, learning, and understanding writing.

In my opinion, blocking focus on grammar, many rules, pattern or form etc. It seems my classes don't like blocking because it has a powerful and controlling influence on their expression of writing. The rules of english language is statement that describe the way which writing usually happen in a particular situation.

Non-blocking, It 's freedom of choice or ability to choose whatever I want to do. Most of friends like this and me too. However, when we do right or wrong, It means our experiences. Many experiences make us perfection.


bless you
Phra Chote

"Rigid Rules, Inflexible Plans, and the Stifling of Language: A Cognitivist Analysis of Writer's Block"

Dear all,

The writer informs us about the difference between blockers and non-blockers. For me, I prefer non-blockers.
Moreover, he talks about the rigid rules and inflexible plans which influence writers as the students. The writer gives examples about individual experience as for writing style as well.
Gagne says that “we wouldn’t be able to function without rules...” I agree with him, for me it’s true.
In my writing process, when I though about rules, I am serious-minded and sometime I get stuck.
Finally, I like the sentence that “a heuristic does not guarantee the optimal solution or, indeed, any solution at all; rather, heuristics offer solutions that are good enough most of the time.”(Page 88)

Regards,
Jib

A Cognitivist Analysis of Writer's Block

I think the papers are difficult and very long. I understand some paragraphs but the most I perplex. I think the papers explain about analysis of writer's block which there are rules, plans, and stifling of language. I seem that we must treat writing as a problem-solving process and focusing.

I don't understand about heuristics of rules. What is it? The paragraph, "Analyzing Writer's Block", show algorithems rather than heuristics. Why? Thank you, if you answer my question, it make me understand more.

Writer's Block

Hi all,

Would you mind if I say that I barely understand this paper because there are many difficult words. I am confused of the word "block". While I was reading this paper I always thought it meant a problem or obstacle. After I read P' Anucha's post, makes me think that 'block' means like a story map. I am so confused. My reading is as bad as my writing???? (I want to cry)

My frist understand of what I read is, it is an analysis of writer's block -- why they got blocks and how they can solve the problems. There are many causes of writer's block such as time, topic and language, etc. And I can see that there are many different solutions Rules and plans can be a cause of a writer's block, at the same time they can also be a solution of a writer's block; it depends on writting styles of each person.

For me, as a writing beginner, I don't know what my writing stlye is. And I don't think that I will have my certain style. Some time I feel stressful when I have to go with rules and plans. On the other hand, I need them through.

Before I got more confusion of myself, I should say bye now and thank you all.
:)