Hi all,
First, I would like to say that I really really and really agree with the writer; everything s/he wrote in this article. S/he understands writers. S/he understands a writing beginner as me. I know s/he was a writing beginner before and now s/he is a good writer for me. I love her! (better assume that the writter is female)
When I read this article, it made me think about a nonstop writing. If you can remeber that I disagree with nonstop writing -- I cannot do a nonstop writing; I could not explain why I can't do it at that time, but now I will tell you why not by using some Perl's words. She speaks for me.
While I am writing some topics, sometimes I have to stop or pause to go back, repeat key words, look at my felt experience and wait for an image, a word, or a phrase to emerge that captures the sense I embody. It means I agree with a recursive process of writing. It works for me.
I like that the writer told us about the meaning of the word 'right' and 'wrong' in a writing process. She said that these 2 words are not neccessarily meant to refer to grammatical structures or to correctness, but they mean the answers of these questions "Are these words right for me?" "Do they cature what I'm trying to say?" "If not, what's missing?". However the writer still remind us to not forget about certain grammtical rules and evaluative criteria which are needed by writers.
I can say that there is nothing in this article I disagree even "Writting leads to discovery"
I don't know what more to say. What I want to say is in the article. Perl speaks for me ;)
Sometimes I feel that I can think, I know, I have ideas of something, but I don't know how to speak out by words, even write words down. When I read this article, I always say "yes, that's what I think" in my mind. But if I want to say "Yes, that's what I said" instead, what will I have to do???? Could anybody suggest me? Shall I read more?
Thank you all
Have good weekend
:)
Program in Translation for Education and Business, School of Applied Arts, King Mongkut's University of Technology North Bangkok
Friday, June 27, 2008
Thursday, June 26, 2008
A cognitivist analysis of writer's block
When I read this article , written by Mike Rose , I had a feeling that the article was not suitable to me . The article made me know that I do not have only the problem in writing but also in reading . It full of difficult vocabularies and academy writing style which is hard to understand . That is my first comment .
Second , from the author’s idea , writing is problem-solving , which I never view like this before . But I think this idea is not always true . Sometimes may be true but sometimes are not . Writing is not problem-solving but thinking is . We cannot write because we cannot find a solution to write . No solution is cause where as writing’s block is symptom . If writing is problem-solving , doing everything is problem-solving also .
Next , the main idea , that I can only get form the article after finished reading , is that rigid rules , inflexible plans , and the stifling of language are the writer’s block . The same level of understanding as I comprehend as I read only the title article . And it is not the new idea or new light for me . As a Buddhist , I known about the middle way , that is do not take seriously or take it easy but do between them . The middle way is appropriate for doing things . It is a way of life . I think it is the same idea that the author try to teach me ( or maybe I try to learn from him ) . This concept was teach by the Buddha , more than 2,500 years ago .
Finally , I feel like I have little gain from this article ( may be cause by my limit capability that cannot extract knowledge from the article ) . It looks like I listen to the author’ comment about his students’ writing .
Second , from the author’s idea , writing is problem-solving , which I never view like this before . But I think this idea is not always true . Sometimes may be true but sometimes are not . Writing is not problem-solving but thinking is . We cannot write because we cannot find a solution to write . No solution is cause where as writing’s block is symptom . If writing is problem-solving , doing everything is problem-solving also .
Next , the main idea , that I can only get form the article after finished reading , is that rigid rules , inflexible plans , and the stifling of language are the writer’s block . The same level of understanding as I comprehend as I read only the title article . And it is not the new idea or new light for me . As a Buddhist , I known about the middle way , that is do not take seriously or take it easy but do between them . The middle way is appropriate for doing things . It is a way of life . I think it is the same idea that the author try to teach me ( or maybe I try to learn from him ) . This concept was teach by the Buddha , more than 2,500 years ago .
Finally , I feel like I have little gain from this article ( may be cause by my limit capability that cannot extract knowledge from the article ) . It looks like I listen to the author’ comment about his students’ writing .
Dear all.
Dear all.
I' m sorry because I write late. I don't have the paper of teacher.I was sick.
I think when I receive the paper,I will write again.
Tuesday, June 24, 2008
"The Cognitivist"
I apologize for writing this article late.
I was sick and I slept all day long yesterday.
I tried to read and understand.
Have I told you lately that "the rule is not the rule"
I believe that "the plan is not the plan" too!
Rules can be learned directly. Sometimes it guides
us to organize ideas in functions.
However, solving problemcan be done without rules.
Plans make us to advance understanding when we
want to solve problems. If we understand clearly in
developing of writing as a problem-solving process,
we will focus the right way how we should do.
I was sick and I slept all day long yesterday.
I tried to read and understand.
Have I told you lately that "the rule is not the rule"
I believe that "the plan is not the plan" too!
Rules can be learned directly. Sometimes it guides
us to organize ideas in functions.
However, solving problemcan be done without rules.
Plans make us to advance understanding when we
want to solve problems. If we understand clearly in
developing of writing as a problem-solving process,
we will focus the right way how we should do.
A Cognitivist Analysis of Writer's Block..
Hi all,
I think, this paper is long and has many difficult words.
T_T
I'm one of writer's block. When I must write I am very anxiety and insecurity about anything that I write can communicate with other people. I don't know the other understand what I write (usually what I say, too). I know I have problem about a communication. I fear to say and also write what I think. This is my big problem when I write because I usually worry about the context more than the grammar. Sometime, many things are confuse in my mind, I don't know how to explain them to the other. If I must talk, I must have a long long time to think about the answer or what I want to say. So I avoid to talk, I prefer to listen.
I think, this paper is long and has many difficult words.
T_T
I'm one of writer's block. When I must write I am very anxiety and insecurity about anything that I write can communicate with other people. I don't know the other understand what I write (usually what I say, too). I know I have problem about a communication. I fear to say and also write what I think. This is my big problem when I write because I usually worry about the context more than the grammar. Sometime, many things are confuse in my mind, I don't know how to explain them to the other. If I must talk, I must have a long long time to think about the answer or what I want to say. So I avoid to talk, I prefer to listen.
Thank you,
K[a]n`i
K[a]n`i
Monday, June 23, 2008
A cognitivist Ananlysis of Writer's Block.
This paper is my task. I can not understand it within 2 or 3 days, but i will try.
Rules and Plans.
I interested this topic.
I think heruristic rules that are appropriate process with me to learning english.
There are not complete rules. It depend on each person, but I can learn it by myself.
Plan is a hierarchical process that can help me controling many operations for learning.
Best Regards
Banna Wanishayanun
Rules and Plans.
I interested this topic.
I think heruristic rules that are appropriate process with me to learning english.
There are not complete rules. It depend on each person, but I can learn it by myself.
Plan is a hierarchical process that can help me controling many operations for learning.
Best Regards
Banna Wanishayanun
A Cognitive Analysis of Writer’s Block.
Dear all
Two types of writing, Blocking and non-blocking can be developed my writing. A Cognitive Analysis is a process of writing that it means relating to connect with thinking involved in knowing, learning, and understanding writing.
In my opinion, blocking focus on grammar, many rules, pattern or form etc. It seems my classes don't like blocking because it has a powerful and controlling influence on their expression of writing. The rules of english language is statement that describe the way which writing usually happen in a particular situation.
Non-blocking, It 's freedom of choice or ability to choose whatever I want to do. Most of friends like this and me too. However, when we do right or wrong, It means our experiences. Many experiences make us perfection.
bless you
Phra Chote
Two types of writing, Blocking and non-blocking can be developed my writing. A Cognitive Analysis is a process of writing that it means relating to connect with thinking involved in knowing, learning, and understanding writing.
In my opinion, blocking focus on grammar, many rules, pattern or form etc. It seems my classes don't like blocking because it has a powerful and controlling influence on their expression of writing. The rules of english language is statement that describe the way which writing usually happen in a particular situation.
Non-blocking, It 's freedom of choice or ability to choose whatever I want to do. Most of friends like this and me too. However, when we do right or wrong, It means our experiences. Many experiences make us perfection.
bless you
Phra Chote
"Rigid Rules, Inflexible Plans, and the Stifling of Language: A Cognitivist Analysis of Writer's Block"
Dear all,
The writer informs us about the difference between blockers and non-blockers. For me, I prefer non-blockers.
Moreover, he talks about the rigid rules and inflexible plans which influence writers as the students. The writer gives examples about individual experience as for writing style as well.
Gagne says that “we wouldn’t be able to function without rules...” I agree with him, for me it’s true.
In my writing process, when I though about rules, I am serious-minded and sometime I get stuck.
Finally, I like the sentence that “a heuristic does not guarantee the optimal solution or, indeed, any solution at all; rather, heuristics offer solutions that are good enough most of the time.”(Page 88)
Regards,
Jib
The writer informs us about the difference between blockers and non-blockers. For me, I prefer non-blockers.
Moreover, he talks about the rigid rules and inflexible plans which influence writers as the students. The writer gives examples about individual experience as for writing style as well.
Gagne says that “we wouldn’t be able to function without rules...” I agree with him, for me it’s true.
In my writing process, when I though about rules, I am serious-minded and sometime I get stuck.
Finally, I like the sentence that “a heuristic does not guarantee the optimal solution or, indeed, any solution at all; rather, heuristics offer solutions that are good enough most of the time.”(Page 88)
Regards,
Jib
A Cognitivist Analysis of Writer's Block
I think the papers are difficult and very long. I understand some paragraphs but the most I perplex. I think the papers explain about analysis of writer's block which there are rules, plans, and stifling of language. I seem that we must treat writing as a problem-solving process and focusing.
I don't understand about heuristics of rules. What is it? The paragraph, "Analyzing Writer's Block", show algorithems rather than heuristics. Why? Thank you, if you answer my question, it make me understand more.
I don't understand about heuristics of rules. What is it? The paragraph, "Analyzing Writer's Block", show algorithems rather than heuristics. Why? Thank you, if you answer my question, it make me understand more.
Writer's Block
Hi all,
Would you mind if I say that I barely understand this paper because there are many difficult words. I am confused of the word "block". While I was reading this paper I always thought it meant a problem or obstacle. After I read P' Anucha's post, makes me think that 'block' means like a story map. I am so confused. My reading is as bad as my writing???? (I want to cry)
My frist understand of what I read is, it is an analysis of writer's block -- why they got blocks and how they can solve the problems. There are many causes of writer's block such as time, topic and language, etc. And I can see that there are many different solutions Rules and plans can be a cause of a writer's block, at the same time they can also be a solution of a writer's block; it depends on writting styles of each person.
For me, as a writing beginner, I don't know what my writing stlye is. And I don't think that I will have my certain style. Some time I feel stressful when I have to go with rules and plans. On the other hand, I need them through.
Before I got more confusion of myself, I should say bye now and thank you all.
:)
Would you mind if I say that I barely understand this paper because there are many difficult words. I am confused of the word "block". While I was reading this paper I always thought it meant a problem or obstacle. After I read P' Anucha's post, makes me think that 'block' means like a story map. I am so confused. My reading is as bad as my writing???? (I want to cry)
My frist understand of what I read is, it is an analysis of writer's block -- why they got blocks and how they can solve the problems. There are many causes of writer's block such as time, topic and language, etc. And I can see that there are many different solutions Rules and plans can be a cause of a writer's block, at the same time they can also be a solution of a writer's block; it depends on writting styles of each person.
For me, as a writing beginner, I don't know what my writing stlye is. And I don't think that I will have my certain style. Some time I feel stressful when I have to go with rules and plans. On the other hand, I need them through.
Before I got more confusion of myself, I should say bye now and thank you all.
:)
writers' block
To all ,
As I understand the writer wants to tell that there are two forms of writing. The first is blocking and the latter is non-blocking. Writers prefer blocking style need to be aware of rigid rules and plans in order to grab readers’ attention while those preferring non-blocking do not need to rely on these two principles, instead they can produce what they really want to write. If they stuck and don’t know how to continue writing, they must keep their audience in mind by expressing what they can write. Please don’t stop or writers ‘thoughts will not be flowing.
Asked which style I like most. I would say that it depends on the situation, the story, and the targeted readers . But don’t forget that both have both bad and good side. Bad side of the blocking style is that writers need to know in-dept details and have a good understanding on the written topic while its good side is that having the given topic will help writers be easier to focus on their details they will write. As for the non-blocking, its good side is that writers can write everything they want without realizing its rules and plans while its bad side is that writers may find difficult to make conclusion of the story.
To all again, I want to share with you about the political situation in the country. I don’t know how much all of you are very concerned about it. But as a Thai I think especially for those who have never paid attention to it before should turn face to monitor the ongoing politics because it’s related to your livelihood. As you know, politics in the country are now divided into two camps- pro –Thaksin group and anti-Thaksin group. The situation is hanging a balance. As a Thai I think you must know how to live in this kind of situation happily. Wait and see the political upheaval in the near future and love to see a new leader who really cares for the benefits of the people.
Thanks/Anucha
As I understand the writer wants to tell that there are two forms of writing. The first is blocking and the latter is non-blocking. Writers prefer blocking style need to be aware of rigid rules and plans in order to grab readers’ attention while those preferring non-blocking do not need to rely on these two principles, instead they can produce what they really want to write. If they stuck and don’t know how to continue writing, they must keep their audience in mind by expressing what they can write. Please don’t stop or writers ‘thoughts will not be flowing.
Asked which style I like most. I would say that it depends on the situation, the story, and the targeted readers . But don’t forget that both have both bad and good side. Bad side of the blocking style is that writers need to know in-dept details and have a good understanding on the written topic while its good side is that having the given topic will help writers be easier to focus on their details they will write. As for the non-blocking, its good side is that writers can write everything they want without realizing its rules and plans while its bad side is that writers may find difficult to make conclusion of the story.
To all again, I want to share with you about the political situation in the country. I don’t know how much all of you are very concerned about it. But as a Thai I think especially for those who have never paid attention to it before should turn face to monitor the ongoing politics because it’s related to your livelihood. As you know, politics in the country are now divided into two camps- pro –Thaksin group and anti-Thaksin group. The situation is hanging a balance. As a Thai I think you must know how to live in this kind of situation happily. Wait and see the political upheaval in the near future and love to see a new leader who really cares for the benefits of the people.
Thanks/Anucha
Sunday, June 22, 2008
No grey! No gay!
I disagree with this colour!
I'm a hardcore person. I like black, deep purple or dark blue/green.
Moreover, I'm not a "gay", so I don't like "grey."
I'm a hardcore person. I like black, deep purple or dark blue/green.
Moreover, I'm not a "gay", so I don't like "grey."
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